AI Images

[tobexz]

The most recent AI dump is pretty out of hand. It's all boring and repetitive and is just spamming the site at this point. Some people have absolutely no concept of curation, or of what others might want to see. It's like the shinysports era where that dude kept endlessly uploading photos of people wearing bibs in slightly different poses, which I'm sure we all remember.

I've had AI eliminate the joy from so many facets of my job and make so many day-to-day tasks frustrating, it's grim to see the slop infiltrate this safe space too.

 

[tobexz]

I had an interesting last week. Saw 4 more people wearing swishy windpants. Two were wearing a pair of Adidas, and the other two were off brand, but I didn't care. 3 of them were guys and 1 was a girl. The girl was wearing an Adidas pair. They looked real good wearing windpants. So, so, much better than ugly sweatpants.

I'm hoping that nylon windpants are coming back.

But yep, I prefer in real life or real pictures of swishy nylon goodness.

I've actually seen a huge increase in the amount of men and women wearing windpants as the weather starts cooling down here (southern hemisphere). I've seen several women in passing wearing Adidas OG windbreaker pants recently, which is giving me hope for things to come.

 

[Miss Betsy]

Couldnt agree more! I hope people read these comments and think before they actually post. Also, people wearing bibs? I dont remember that at all, haha. Maybe that was before I joined.

 

[Cubitus the Chatty]

Hi! I became shiny nylon 'artist'. I prefer term visualisator.

I post my pics at DeviantArt. Is it possible to post here?

I use Leonardo AI for making images

Sure you can post it here in the gallery, but a selection would be very recommended.

 

[Cubitus the Chatty]

And before things getting out of hands...... Actually we have no "hide Ai images" button in the preferences. Yes I agree, also for me there are too much Ai images with the same or similar scene....

......BUT......

No! We won't punish users just for uploading (too much Ai) images, if they're legal and in the right category!

If someone absolutely not want to see Ai images, try to select a section f.e. "Member+ NSFW" (in gallery)

Sure it's not the solution, but I think Ai isn't going away anymore and we have to deal with it.
I personally act like this: scroll down, mark viewed, done.

 

[adidas2sl2]

AI is absolutely horrible. Anybody can put a lot of terrible images together. It's commodity junk and it's watering out the actual content. It's creating a haystack and the real content is the needle. It's making these sites useless. Add to that - it's creepy, lifeless, poor lighting, and just dead.

 

[shinynylonfetish]

AI is absolutely horrible. Anybody can put a lot of terrible images together. It's commodity junk and it's watering out the actual content. It's creating a haystack and the real content is the needle. It's making these sites useless. Add to that - it's creepy, lifeless, poor lighting, and just dead.

some engines are pretty bad. I tried SexyAi for a few weeks and the images were not at all life like. The site was expensive for paid up plans so I stuck to the free one. Maybe it was the free one that sucked, and if so that is not the way to encourage subscribers. Ai engines need accurate descriptions for image creation, and some of us probably don't realise the level of detail some generators require. I don't mind the use of Ai if it is for scenes we would never be able to re-create in real life, the content is legal, and does not depict harm to others. What I don't like is when Ai images are not marked as such or if they don't have their own category.

 

[Cubitus the Chatty]

I think the payment or abo option is quite usual these days... Mostly same system, show what you could get, but if you want all you have to buy premium... I've tried some ai too, not only image creation but also chat. Or rather chats with image creation implemented.... In my case I can say it's not worth, simply just not worth the money....

And yes I totally agree that it's not cool to don't Tag such images or videos as what they are. An even bigger no go for me is if people using ai images as profile pic but don't mention or even depend on "that's me" .....

And I am slowly overwhelmed and annoyed by all this "fake" stuff....... But hey, welcome to the future 🤣🙄

 

[Nebula1976]

I think the payment or abo option is quite usual these days... Mostly same system, show what you could get, but if you want all you have to buy premium... I've tried some ai too, not only image creation but also chat. Or rather chats with image creation implemented.... In my case I can say it's not worth, simply just not worth the money....

And yes I totally agree that it's not cool to don't Tag such images or videos as what they are. An even bigger no go for me is if people using ai images as profile pic but don't mention or even depend on "that's me" .....

And I am slowly overwhelmed and annoyed by all this "fake" stuff....... But hey, welcome to the future 🤣🙄

Image AI is a form of fine art. It doesn't matter whether the image is drawn by hand, in a graphics editor, or with the help of AI. In all cases, it is fine art. AI is simply a tool, just like a pencil, brush, stylus, and computer mouse.

I put AI-generated drawings in the Nylon Art folder. But there's no way to create albums there. All users post images in one big pile. Could you please create albums there?

Thnx!

 

[Cubitus the Chatty]

No way! You’re not an artist if you let someone or something else create the “art” for you, even if you specify how that “art” should look. In that case, you’re merely the client who commissioned the art, and “the artist” in the true sense of the word would be the AI.
But this is a very simple misunderstanding between the user and the creator. You don’t become a car mechanic just because you tell the garage how to tune the car, do you?!

What ever.....just live your dream, it's yours....

But I agree to the folders...

 

[Nebula1976]

No way! You’re not an artist if you let someone or something else create the “art” for you, even if you specify how that “art” should look. In that case, you’re merely the client who commissioned the art, and “the artist” in the true sense of the word would be the AI.
But this is a very simple misunderstanding between the user and the creator. You don’t become a car mechanic just because you tell the garage how to tune the car, do you?!

What ever.....just live your dream, it's yours....

But I agree to the folders...

This is the same as reproaching an accountant working in an accounting program that he is not an accountant, but a client. And apparently, to be an accountant, you need to do all your accounting on an abacus and write down accounting entries in a book... Well, I hope, at least with a ballpoint pen and not a quill pen?

I know that you are left-wing. I hope that you at least continue to consider a worker working on a machine with numerical software as a worker, or is he also a client?

But thanks for agreeing about the folders. This will make it more convenient for everyone.

 

[Nebula1976]

I know that you are left-wing.

Off topic. I support libertarianism. Glory to Heinlein!

And on the topic, here is a good picture on DA.

This is an Appliqué. AI was used partially. The layers were mixed manually in GIMP.

By the way, when you create an applique using AI, are you an artist or a client?

 

[Nebula1976]

Dear users. Please ignore this. We are having a small philosophical discussion with the admin, which is not entirely on topic. The admin and I have different political and philosophical views. And that's the problem.

Posts and pictures are at the discretion of the admin. The admin can delete everything. It's his right. He is the admin here. Ku twice.

Upd. If you like the pictures I posted. I took many of them here. The visualizer, which is involved in creating pictures, is not against it, as is comrade AI.

 

[Nebula1976]

I'll tell you a joke from the soviet union.

But first, a little explanation.

In the soviet union, any entrepreneurial activity was prohibited. Not always; during Perestroika and the New Economic Policy (NEP), the authorities permitted it. But private entrepreneurship was generally prohibited. All companies had to be state-owned, including taxis.

But, unlike in North Korea, personal cars weren't banned for most of history. They were just very few in number. And they were inferior, but better than the GDR's Trabants.

And some people simply engaged in illegal business, providing taxi driving services to Soviet citizens. This was illegal taxi service.

All legally licensed Soviet taxis had a special sign: a yellow, prismatic light with a checkered pattern. The light was mounted on the roof of the car. People called these lanterns "Checkers".

And then one day a Soviet intellectual signals that he needs a taxi. The driver of a simple car stopped and asked where to go.
- Where are the "Checkers"? - asked the intellectual.
- Do you need the "Checkers" or do you need to go? - the driver asked in response.


It's not for nothing that I wrote that I'm a libertarian. Our political and philosophical views on life are based on the theory of marginal utility.

I'll oversimplify this theory on purpose. If people don't need goods and services, they don't buy them. Leftists simply don't understand this. And because of this, the economies of countries where leftist Marxists are in power usually collapse.

In this particular case, the images I've published are free. But you, dear users, are still consumers. It's up to you to decide whether you want the images I've published or not. It doesn't matter whether these images are created by artificial intelligence or not. You need to go, right? And not admire the "Checkers" on taxi car?

Upd. I apologize if I wrote it very difficult. I explain everything very simply. People here just want pictures. And people for the most part don’t care how this or that picture was created. They may like the picture or not. The picture was created by AI, whether it is a real photograph or a hand-drawn drawing is completely irrelevant.

 

[Nebula1976]

You could create a mechanism for deleting images that people don't like. You could add dislikes, plus people can write negative comments, after which the image can be deleted. Simply set a threshold for negative comments and dislikes. For example, 100 dislikes and the image is deleted.

But likes can actually balance out dislikes. That is, if there are 100 likes and 100 dislikes, then the image has 0 dislikes. Internet democracy and voting as they are.

It's just an idea. I'm not insisting on doing it this way. But if you have a problem with bad images, here's a simple solution.

Upd. If users really like certain images, they can notify the admin, who can add them to the exceptions list. Old images posted a long time ago can also be added to this exception list. Old images can be considered Shinysports's gold reserve, and as such, they are immune from automatic deletion.

Let me remind you again that this is just an idea and doesn't necessarily need to be implemented. You don't even need to listen to me; I'm just letters on a screen, nothing more. And a couple dozen pictures in a gallery. You can ignore that.

 

[Cubitus the Chatty]

This is the same as reproaching an accountant working in an accounting program that he is not an accountant, but a client. And apparently, to be an accountant, you need to do all your accounting on an abacus and write down accounting entries in a book... Well, I hope, at least with a ballpoint pen and not a quill pen?

I know that you are left-wing. I hope that you at least continue to consider a worker working on a machine with numerical software as a worker, or is he also a client?

But thanks for agreeing about the folders. This will make it more convenient for everyone.

You don't want to understand what I said. A worker don't create art, a programmer don't create art, a accountant dont create arts.......... Ahhh shhhh! What ever, as I said live your dream it's yours...! But just let others live their dreams too.....!

And no I'm not left wing! Or whatever you like to tell, stop mentioning such bullshit, you don't know me so don't tell bullshit about me or put me in a frame you can't proof.

By the way, until now politics have never been a topic in here...! And I think we stay this way!
Its completely equal if you are left, right, red, brown, blue whatever IT IS SIMPLY NOT OUR TOPIC HERE.

I just think by my self, that's enough.

 

[Nebula1976]

You don't want to understand what I said. A worker don't create art, a programmer don't create art, a accountant dont create arts.......... Ahhh shhhh! What ever, as I said live your dream it's yours...! But just let others live their dreams too.....!

And no I'm not left wing! Or whatever you like to tell, stop mentioning such bullshit, you don't know me so don't tell bullshit about me or put me in a frame you can't proof.

By the way, until now politics have never been a topic in here...! And I think we stay this way!
Its completely equal if you are left, right, red, brown, blue whatever IT IS SIMPLY NOT OUR TOPIC HERE.

I just think by my self, that's enough.

I'm not saying you're lazy. I don't like your views. But I like the idea of distributing images here. I don't mind the rules for distributing images.

You're right about a few things. You can't call an AI visualizer an artist. To be considered an artist, a person must be able to draw by hand. With a pencil. If a person can't do that, they're not an artist.

I don't care what people call me. I distribute content. Famous Russian rock singer, musician, and bard Yuri Shevchuk once joked that there are bearers of culture, and then there are distributors.

I am a distributor. An evil, cruel capitalist who rejoices in the tears of poor leftists.

So let's put this matter to rest. As a distributor, I benefit from the same things that benefit you.

The rules for distributing AI content on this forum are beneficial to me as well.

Here are some ideas that might help prevent the forum from becoming an AI dumping ground.


1. A checkbox indicating that the image was created using AI. And another checkbox in the user's profile indicates that the user requests to exclude AI content from the images Shinysports shows them. You're the admin, figure out how to do this.
2. Voting for the removal of generally bad works. To prevent trolls from deleting good works and prevent them from deleting good ones, we need to add immunity to old, good works. Users can also vote for image immunity. Users will then decide for themselves which images are bad and which they don't like.
3. Alternatively, you could create a sandbox gallery. Users would post AI images there, and the images from this sandbox would only be added to the main gallery if they received many likes.

For regular users who risk losing images they like and have published here, I recommend saving them to your device—either your computer's hard drive, a smartphone, or a tablet.

These pictures can then be published on Pinterest, LOL

 

[KeepSeeing44]

Man, you're getting way too deep and philosophical for this. It's not that deep. This isn't super philosophical, and it's not the least bit political.

It's the fact that the majority of people on this site prefer real images. The entire Internet is full of AI now. The fact that something is synthesized, takes away all of the allure of it. It's a matter of opinion. And matters of opinion are not up for debate, you either "agree to disagree" or you don't.

There are AI partners now, that will be your virtual significant other. Having a bot sweet talking me and showing me a fake naked body does nothing for me, because I know it's not real, it's a computer. I want a real person with real decisions and feelings. On a site like this, most people have a strong interest, a fascination, or even a fetish for the shiny clothing. Part of that allure is seeing real people wearing the real clothes, in a day and age where it is quite uncommon or downright nonexistent in some areas.

Most people are not on this particular site for art, a cell phone selfie of somebody wearing something of interest, is more than good enough, and will get likes and comments. Especially when those pictures or videos spark a good discussion about where to buy that clothing item, because people like it and want it for themselves.

AI is just another 100 pictures in the gallery, of a computer's best guess of what a shiny tracksuit looks like, over and over.

 

[Cubitus the Chatty]

I'm not saying you're lazy. I don't like your views. But I like the idea of distributing images here. I don't mind the rules for distributing images.

You're right about a few things. You can't call an AI visualizer an artist. To be considered an artist, a person must be able to draw by hand. With a pencil. If a person can't do that, they're not an artist.

I don't care what people call me. I distribute content. Famous Russian rock singer, musician, and bard Yuri Shevchuk once joked that there are bearers of culture, and then there are distributors.

I am a distributor. An evil, cruel capitalist who rejoices in the tears of poor leftists.

So let's put this matter to rest. As a distributor, I benefit from the same things that benefit you.

The rules for distributing AI content on this forum are beneficial to me as well.

Here are some ideas that might help prevent the forum from becoming an AI dumping ground.


1. A checkbox indicating that the image was created using AI. And another checkbox in the user's profile indicates that the user requests to exclude AI content from the images Shinysports shows them. You're the admin, figure out how to do this.
2. Voting for the removal of generally bad works. To prevent trolls from deleting good works and prevent them from deleting good ones, we need to add immunity to old, good works. Users can also vote for image immunity. Users will then decide for themselves which images are bad and which they don't like.
3. Alternatively, you could create a sandbox gallery. Users would post AI images there, and the images from this sandbox would only be added to the main gallery if they received many likes.

For regular users who risk losing images they like and have published here, I recommend saving them to your device—either your computer's hard drive, a smartphone, or a tablet.

These pictures can then be published on Pinterest, LOL

Well, I think this is going too far, too... What makes you think I'm lazy? What kind of nonsense is that? It doesn't make any sense; as far as I'm concerned, this discussion is over.

One more time! Your political or capitalist views are completely irrelevant here, so just keep that to yourself and that’s that...
As far as I’m concerned, let’s agree on “distributor,” “creator”—whatever, it’s fine....
What bothers most people—and I’ll gladly repeat this again—is the sheer volume of images that all show the same thing. Not AI images in general.